Rhun ap Iorwerth on beating Reform, Labour and the Greens in the Senedd

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Rhun ap Iorwerth, leader of Plaid Cymru, on the party’s strategy for forming the next Welsh Government and challenging both Labour’s long dominance and the rising presence of Reform UK. He argues that Labour has failed to use its time in power in Wales to extract real leverage from Westminster, and that a Plaid-led government would push the UK government harder to deliver for Wales. We discuss the populist right in Britain and internationally, the future of Welsh independence, the role of devolution, and Plaid’s approach to building economic confidence and improving health, education and childcare. We also talk about Welsh identity and language, with ap Iorwerth rejecting the idea that promoting Welsh culture is exclusionary and arguing it belongs to everyone in Wales.